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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby cpawfan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:49 pm

killa kadafi191 wrote:

yea the big 3 but amare boozer lee and gay i thought but dang we settling for bench players


Adding quality players to the team is never a bad thing and would be a huge improvement over what Thorn has been doing for the past half decade.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby mb4th » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:50 pm

cpawfan wrote:
Where in the GO NETS!!! did I say Boozer was worth the Max. I listed the FA tier he was on



So what should have Thron done?

Boozer - Not worth the max
David Lee- Sucks
Amare - 100M for no rings
Gay- Sucks
Joe Johnson - Not realistic


What did Thron fail to do here in your opinion?
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby killa kadafi191 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:51 pm

cpawfan wrote:
Adding quality players to the team is never a bad thing and would be a huge improvement over what Thorn has been doing for the past half decade.



this team has no identity who are we building around? we adding players to add? what is the plan?
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby furnace » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:55 pm

mb4th wrote:
So what should have Thron done?

Boozer - Not worth the max
David Lee- Sucks
Amare - 100M for no rings
Gay- Sucks
Joe Johnson - Not realistic

What did Thron fail to do here in your opinion?


My version:

Boozer - Bad Attitude - Not worth the max
David Lee- Good Value
Amare - Bad Knees - Not worth the max
Gay- Good Player - Not worth the max
Joe Johnson - Sucks

If David Lee can be had for 10-12 million/year, I'd say it's a great value. From 12-16 million/year, he's overpaid.

That being said, I'd rather overpay a little for Lee than for Boozer, Stoudemire, or Joe Johnson.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby cpawfan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:59 pm

mb4th wrote:

So what should have Thron done?

Boozer - Not worth the max
David Lee- Sucks
Amare - 100M for no rings
Gay- Sucks
Joe Johnson - Not realistic


What did Thron fail to do here in your opinion?


Had better plans for what to do if LBJ didn't agree to come to the Nets. Hearing Tyrus Thomas right after the LBJ dream dies is not proper planning. This is where the incompetence comes shining through.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby mb4th » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:01 pm

furnace wrote:
My version:

Boozer - Bad Attitude - Not worth the max
David Lee- Good Value
Amare - Bad Knees - Not worth the max
Gay- Good Player - Not worth the max
Joe Johnson - Sucks

If David Lee can be had for 10-12 million/year, I'd say it's a great value. From 12-16 million/year, he's overpaid.

That being said, I'd rather overpay a little for Lee than for Boozer, Stoudemire, or Joe Johnson.




I guess he would have taken maybe a litte bit less to stay in the area rather than go to GS. His GF is a model/actress and wants to say in the area.

So if his deal is 13M a year w/ GS than maybe we could have gotten him at 12 per.

Maybe we are better off giving Scola or Haslem a 3 year deal. They can still play so we stay above water. And when their deal is expiring Favors should be ready
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby mb4th » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:05 pm

cpawfan wrote:
Had better plans for what to do if LBJ didn't agree to come to the Nets. Hearing Tyrus Thomas right after the LBJ dream dies is not proper planning. This is where the incompetence comes shining through.



Better plans like what? You cant have it both ways. You hate all these FA's and/or the deals they got.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby cpawfan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:06 pm

killa kadafi191 wrote:

this team has no identity who are we building around? we adding players to add? what is the plan?


There are 3 players in the NBA worth building around, Kobe, LeBron and Durant. After that, it is about getting as many good players together as possible. Boston is an aberration because they were built with guys acquired via trade on the downside of their careers. To get to that point, they sucked for multiple seasons and accumulated young talent while having one top flight all star already on the roster.

The plan should be adding guys that will allow the Nets to get up to 30 wins next season without screwing up financial flexibility. So far, so good.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby cpawfan » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:08 pm

mb4th wrote:

Better plans like what? You cant have it both ways. You hate all these FA's and/or the deals they got.


Better plans that targeting Tyrus Thomas. Any plan that includes that as a goal is pure incompetence.

If you can't get that home run superstar, you need to start addressing the weakness on the team. I don't believe Thorn has ever been good at analyzing his own team's weaknesses. Tyrus Thomas doesn't fix any of the weaknesses on the Nets.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby mb4th » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:14 pm

cpawfan wrote:
Better plans that targeting Tyrus Thomas. Any plan that includes that as a goal is pure incompetence.

If you can't get that home run superstar, you need to start addressing the weakness on the team. I don't believe Thorn has ever been good at analyzing his own team's weaknesses. Tyrus Thomas doesn't fix any of the weaknesses on the Nets.



Lets see where this goes. Apparently we turned down a Yi for Ty Thomas proposal from the Bulls. We then had to spend $3M just to dump Yi. At that point Kiki was clearly on his way out and Thron had control.

So I dont believe he wants Thomas. I think he wants Haslem or Scola, whichever takes 3 years
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby Netted » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:25 pm

Thomas makes no sense with Lopez and Favors. Do they really want 19 year old Favors leaning on Thomas for advice?

I'm hoping this is Thomas' agent spreading bs to hype his client.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby SIC » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:37 pm

killa kadafi191 wrote:

this team has no identity who are we building around? we adding players to add? what is the plan?


I am hoping that Avery is trying to duplicate the 99 Spurs formula.

Avery - Harris
Elie - Lee
Sean Elliot - Outlaw
Robinson - ?
Duncan - Lopez

I am not compare talent of each player but just the roles of the players.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby killa kadafi191 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:53 pm

SIC wrote:
I am hoping that Avery is trying to duplicate the 99 Spurs formula.

Avery - Harris
Elie - Lee
Sean Elliot - Outlaw
Robinson - ?
Duncan - Lopez

I am not compare talent of each player but just the roles of the players.



I see us more like the memphis grizz. building around a player we don't know if at best he is the second scorer on this team.

As someone said you have to over pay to get talent. We have been through this before. We keep trying to put pieces together to fit and work together and either they don't or we only go so far.

The nets in this eastern conference climate will be behind for years if they follow this plan.

We have holes at the PF and SF that was not address.

I still feel our PG position needs to be upgraded from an injury prone player
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby cpawfan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:18 am

Still room on the bandwagon :lol:

Tyrus Thomas - Thorn's final GO NETS!!!! to Nets fans
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby Chaos » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:49 am

cpawfan wrote:Still room on the bandwagon :lol:

Tyrus Thomas - Thorn's final GO NETS!!!! to Nets fans

Jumping on.

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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby BKNETS2012 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:22 am

We need to spend another 10 mil on someone, just to meet the minimum salary.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby danxcr` » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:32 am

BKNETS2012 wrote:We need to spend another 10 mil on someone, just to meet the minimum salary.


Maybe its goin to be TT and Farmar. And hope we trade for something.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby J-Kay » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:20 pm

BKNETS2012 wrote:We need to spend another 10 mil on someone, just to meet the minimum salary.

There's a minimum salary?
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby ly_yng » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:58 pm

Just because we need to meet the minimum salary doesn't mean we should continue that spending over 5 years.
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Re: Without a new Front Office, the Nets will continue to suck

Postby DP3 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:28 pm

J-Kay wrote:There's a minimum salary?

75% of the cap, so this year it's $43.5mil. We actually have to spend just under $12mil on 3-6 more players (if you don't count the undrafted rookies we signed to partial guarantees).
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