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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby GMJ » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:05 pm

D-Lightning wrote: I cant speak for his defense because I havent watched him play nearly enough but


D-Lightning wrote: I havent watched him play nearly enough

D-Lightning wrote: I havent watched him play nearly enough

D-Lightning wrote: I havent watched him play nearly enough


Yet you seem quite passionate about your opinion. :)
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Nets4Life » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:07 pm

He is a statistical wonder, but the Wolves can't afford to give him the "max"...not at 15-49. Now if the Wolves can improve as a group next year and K-Love improves even more; its a no brainer. But until then, he's got to prevent these types of mistakes:

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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby D-Lightning » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:47 pm

Love 23pts 17rebs 5assists tonight. He now owns the record for most consecutive double doubles with 51.

Thats where I will end my thoughts in this thread.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Nets4Life » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:25 am

D-Lightning wrote:Love 23pts 17rebs 5assists tonight. He now owns the record for most consecutive double doubles with 51.

Thats where I will end my thoughts in this thread.


...and they still lost.

(even though it was against the Mavs).

Kahn will convince Love that Minny can't afford to pay him the "max".
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Nets4Life » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:31 am

Love will always need a defensive minded C to play next to and at that point it becomes unaffordable for a small market team to invest 30 mill in 2 players.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Kid Chocolate » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:33 am

Putting up pretty stats on a horrible team doesn't automatically mean you deserve a huge payday.

I'm a big fan of the Lovemaker, but c'mon, if he was THAT good, the team would have won more than 15 games so far this season.


This reminds me of when Ralph Kiner asked for a raise on a last place team and Branch Rickey told him (paraphrase) "We finished last with you, we can finish last without you."
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby CalamityX04 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:31 am

So if Humpz manage to roll a streak of 51 straight double doubles, does that make him great?

It's a great achievement, fine and well earned however it doesn't really say He's a very good player. Give me LMA over Love anyday.... Love isn't a max player, he doesn't win games for his team.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Netted » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:18 pm

I like Love, but for all the people saying he is worth the max ask yourselves this one question: can you give him the ball at the end of the game and ask him to win it?

And I don't mean with the frequency or type of play you would with a wing who can create his own shot, but with the frequency you'd give it to an A-list big man like Duncan, Gasol, or Stoudemire.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Kid Chocolate » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:41 pm

Netted wrote:I like Love, but for all the people saying he is worth the max ask yourselves this one question: can you give him the ball at the end of the game and ask him to win it?



No, because his team isn't in a position to win the game.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby ghoti » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:00 pm

This guy has done an incredible, amazing job of maximizing his talent and becoming the best player he could become.

So of course people complain and cut him down because he's not someone else and isn't doing the things he can't do.

He's not worth a max contract, but I'd rather overpay this guy than pay some GO NETS!!! who has skills but never develops them or someone who has no extraordinary talents to even develop.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby mb4th » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:34 am

Cut him down? He is David Lee, David Lee got paid big time and Love will too.

Doesnt make him an elite player
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby ghoti » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:52 am

I think Love is much more naturally talented and more skilled than Lee, but the reasons for their inflated stats are similar and valid.

Lee isn't worth his contract because the team he plays for didn't have a plan to get the most out of him. If Love goes to a team like that, the same thing will happen.

Guys like this don't fit everywhere. If you want your money's worth, don't expect anything more out of him than what he's already demonstrated he is very, very good at.
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Re: Kevin Love, $70 mill?

Postby Eduardo's Empanada » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:56 am

I still honestly believe most GM's would take Brook Lopez over Love at this point and I think that really says something taking Love's monster stats and Lopez' regression into account.
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